Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

02/23/2006 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ SB 300 MOTOR VEHICLE NEGATIVE EQUITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 273 MOTOR VEHICLE SALES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
                   SB 273-MOTOR VEHICLE SALES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS announced SB 273 to be up for consideration.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY,   sponsor,  advised   members  of   a  proposed                                                               
amendment to  the bill, to amend  Section 1, page 1,  line 11, to                                                               
delete "for  sales in this  state" and add, after  "vehicle", the                                                               
phrase "pursuant to which the  dealer's area of responsibility is                                                               
located within  the State of Alaska".   He deferred to  his staff                                                               
for an explanation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  MAKINSTER,  Staff to  Senator  John  Cowdery, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  explained that  in  2004, HB  272  was passed  with                                                               
regard  to unscrupulous  advertising  or sales  practices.   Some                                                               
people  were  selling   slightly  used  cars  as   new,  or  were                                                               
ambiguously claiming that  they were new cars.  In  that bill and                                                               
some other  legislation, AS 08.66.015 was  changed, becoming more                                                               
far-reaching than intended.  The  legislation had "current model"                                                               
to deal  with this problem,  Mr. Makinster noted.   However, many                                                               
people trade  in vehicles soon  after buying them.   The language                                                               
prohibited sale of a current-model  vehicle for any reason unless                                                               
it had  a manufacturer's  certificate of  origin.   Under current                                                               
law, a vehicle would  have to be held by a  dealer until the next                                                               
year's model was introduced.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  said this  law  isn't being  enforced.   It  would  be a  bad                                                               
business  practice   for  dealerships   and,  according   to  the                                                               
Department of  Law (DOL), would  hurt the consumer overall.   For                                                               
example,  Mr.   Makinster  said,  a  serviceman   going  overseas                                                               
wouldn't be  able to turn  in a  car because no  dealership would                                                               
want to  pay for that car  and have it  sit on the lot  until the                                                               
next year's model came out.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He explained that  SB 273 therefore removes  "current model" from                                                               
statute.   Thus a new vehicle  can be sold only  if in possession                                                               
of  the  certificate  of  origin   and  if  the  dealer  has  the                                                               
manufacturer's  sales and  service  agreement.   "So basically  a                                                               
manufacturer-dealer can only sell new  cars," he added.  "A used-                                                               
car dealer, under no circumstance, can  sell a new car."  He said                                                               
this protects  the consumer because  it doesn't allow  a used-car                                                               
dealer to purport that a used car is new.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGGINS asked  whether registration  provides the  primary                                                               
evidence that a car isn't new.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAKINSTER  said  the manufacturer's  certificate  of  origin                                                               
remains with  the car until  registered; it is  then relinquished                                                               
to  the  state's  department  of   motor  vehicles  and  the  car                                                               
automatically becomes a used car.   That is how it occurs in most                                                               
states.  Some states, however, have more ambiguous statutes.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS requested clarification about what would change.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAKINSTER answered  that it  wouldn't change  anything being                                                               
done right  now.   The statute as  written isn't  being enforced,                                                               
which  is  why  DOL  has  requested this  change.    If  it  were                                                               
enforced, a  vehicle might have  to sit  on a dealer's  lot until                                                               
the next model year came out.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:10:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY  related  his understanding  that  the  attorney                                                               
general's  office said,  if this  were enforced,  there would  be                                                               
about a $5,000 fine for every transaction.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAKINSTER concurred, but clarified  that the fine would apply                                                               
to  every   attempt  to   sell,  which   could  attach   even  to                                                               
advertisements.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH requested  clarification  on whether  there is  a                                                               
prohibition on  selling it at all,  or if the person  just cannot                                                               
sell it as a current-model vehicle.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:12:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAKINSTER  responded that, according to  DOL, the prohibition                                                               
is  on selling  it -  because  "current model"  isn't defined  in                                                               
statute,  it  can  be  interpreted  as an  inability  to  sell  a                                                               
current-model vehicle.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH remarked  that  it  seems to  go  along with  the                                                               
letter from Mr. Sniffen [of DOL, in packets].                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAKINSTER, in  response to  Chair Huggins,  said the  change                                                               
[proposed in  the amendment  offered by  Senator Cowdery]  was at                                                               
the  request of  the auto  dealers association;  it was  received                                                               
only two days  ago.  He reported  that DOL believes it  is a good                                                               
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He informed  members that Mr.  Sniffen of DOL, who  would testify                                                               
at  the  next  committee  hearing,  said  this  new  language  is                                                               
probably  better  because  "sales  in  this  state"  is  somewhat                                                               
ambiguous with regard to dealers  in other states, who might have                                                               
agreements  with  the manufacturer  to  have  Alaska under  their                                                               
umbrella  of  responsibility.   Mr.  Makinster  also  noted  that                                                               
Mr. Sniffen  said this  is mostly  a  matter of  style, but  also                                                               
clarifies what "sales in the state" means.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGGINS  brought  up  the issue  of  Canadian  dealers  in                                                               
particular.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAKINSTER said that was  what the original bills dealing with                                                               
this matter were trying to  address.  He relayed that Mr. Sniffen                                                               
said it  has been resolved  through other legislation.   "This is                                                               
basically cleanup language," Mr. Makinster added.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:15:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS asked  if [SB 273] would have  any negative impacts                                                               
for the buyer.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAKINSTER said  he didn't believe so; according  to DOL, this                                                               
would actually help consumers, who would  be allowed to buy a car                                                               
and  turn a  car in.    As for  used-car dealers,  he noted  that                                                               
Section 2 repeals [AS 08.66.015(b)], which reads:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          (b) A person who does business as a dealer in the                                                                     
     state may not offer to sell  or sell a motor vehicle as                                                                    
     a  new   or  current  model  motor   vehicle  having  a                                                                    
     manufacturer's warranty unless                                                                                             
          (1) the dealer has a current sales and service                                                                        
     agreement  with  the  manufacturer  and  the  agreement                                                                    
     requires the  dealer, upon demand of  the motor vehicle                                                                    
     buyer, to  perform or arrange for,  within a reasonable                                                                    
       distance of the dealer's place of business in the                                                                        
     state, the repair and replacement work required of the                                                                     
     manufacturer under the warranty; or                                                                                        
          (2) the dealer offers to give the buyer a rebate                                                                      
     to  cover  the repair  and  replacement  work that  the                                                                    
     dealer  cannot   perform  or   arrange  for   within  a                                                                    
     reasonable distance of the dealer's place of business.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  pointed out  that  someone could  have  a used  current-model                                                               
vehicle,  and  that  a  used  car  could  have  a  manufacturer's                                                               
warranty.  The existing language  limits purchasing options for a                                                               
buyer.   Thus the bill allows  consumers to buy new  but slightly                                                               
used  cars  from a  wider  range  of  dealers, not  just  new-car                                                               
dealers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:17:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS observed that the  bill allows a person to transfer                                                               
a warranty when selling a car.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAKINSTER concurred.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS opened public testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CAROL LYBERGER,  Lyberger's Car and Truck  Sales, Anchorage, said                                                               
this bill is  a good change and  just cleans up an old  law.  She                                                               
offered an  example, saying  this will  make every  dealership in                                                               
compliance with  state law.   She expressed 100  percent support.                                                               
In response  to Chair Huggins,  she indicated she believes  it is                                                               
friendly to both customers and dealers.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JON COOK, Legislative Director,  Alaska Auto Dealers Association;                                                               
General   Manager,  Aurora   Motors,   Fairbanks,  informed   the                                                               
committee  that he  strongly  supports SB  273  and the  proposed                                                               
amendment.   He said it  can't be overstated how  beneficial this                                                               
is.   Agreeing this is  a housekeeping  issue - since  dealers in                                                               
Alaska are technically  out of compliance with state  law and yet                                                               
it isn't  enforced -  he noted  that it  would be  detrimental to                                                               
consumers if  the current law  were enforced, which  could happen                                                               
someday if the statute remained on  the books.  He specified that                                                               
repeal of subsection (b) also would be most welcome.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  how many  cars come  back after  the first                                                               
year of their sale.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COOK replied  that his  dealership  gets perhaps  a dozen  a                                                               
year, and he  believes several hundred are returned  each year in                                                               
Alaska.   In response to Chair  Huggins, Mr. Cook noted  that his                                                               
organization's membership includes the  vast majority of new- and                                                               
used-car dealers  in Alaska.   He  has worked  on this  issue for                                                               
more than a  year, but hasn't heard objections.   He suggested it                                                               
would help used-car dealers especially,  since they cannot sell a                                                               
current-model  vehicle at  all under  the existing  statute.   He                                                               
indicated he couldn't see any  negative impacts on customers, but                                                               
there  would  be many  problems  under  the current  statute,  if                                                               
enforced, including a worsening  of the negative-equity situation                                                               
discussed earlier in the meeting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
STEVE SAUTNER, Owner, Dealers Auto  Auction of Alaska, Anchorage,                                                               
expressed  support for  SB 237.   He  explained that  wholesalers                                                               
would like to  be in compliance with state law  because they sell                                                               
new,   previously   owned  vehicles,   particularly   repossessed                                                               
vehicles,  dealer-consigned vehicles  and rental  vehicles, which                                                               
they'd  like to  sell as  soon as  possible.   There are  several                                                               
thousand such 2006 vehicles in  Alaska, and dealers cannot absorb                                                               
all  of  them.   This  change  is needed  so  dealers  can be  in                                                               
compliance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:28:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAUTNER, in  response to Senator Cowdery, said  about a third                                                               
of the  vehicles he gets  are repossessions; a third  are dealer-                                                               
consigned vehicles, including aged inventory and new-car trade-                                                                 
ins; and a  third are rental vehicles and off-lease  vehicles.  A                                                               
lot of current-model-year vehicles  are returned from rental lots                                                               
every year; many go to  the Seattle markets now, but increasingly                                                               
they are liquidated.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS asked  about any drawbacks to  dealers or customers                                                               
from these proposed changes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAUTNER replied  that he  isn't in  the retail  side of  the                                                               
business, but doesn't see any negatives from either side.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:29:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Cynthia  Drinkwater of  DOL  informed members  that  she was  on                                                               
teleconference to answer questions and  that Mr. Sniffen would be                                                               
available for future hearings.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGGINS asked whether anyone else wished to testify.  He                                                                  
announced that SB 273 would be held over.  [The proposed                                                                        
amendment was not adopted.]                                                                                                     

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